Hebrews 12:3-29 When we suffer, it might seem like Richard Dawkins was right to say, “The universe that we observe has precisely the properties we should expect if there is, at bottom, no design, no purpose, no evil, no good, nothing but pitiless indifference”. In this talk, we’ll hear what God has to say: our suffering isn’t because of pitiless indifference, it has a purpose.